Adam Chambers is dreaming of Wembley
Should Walsall be victorious tonight, it would end a long wait for Adam Chambers.
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The Saddlers skipper has never come close to playing at Wembley in a professional career which stretches back 15 years.
Yet typically, the 34-year-old is focusing more on what it would mean for others.
"Personally it would be great," he says. "But I would just be delighted for the people around the club, the staff and the fans.
"I have said it many times, there are some really good people working here on the football side and at the stadium and the offices.
"It is a great club, a great environment to play your football.
"Since I first came here the people have been very welcoming to myself, my family, there are some really good people here and they deserve the success. It would be nice to do it for them."
Anyone who has ever spent any time with Walsall's captain knows this is classic Chambers.
Together, he and brother James have a well-deserved reputation for being two of the nicest, most down-to-earth men in the game.
This season, Adam has slowly grown into the role of club figurehead, having taken the skipper's armband from the departed Andy Butler.
Now he stands on the brink of doing what no Saddlers captain has ever done before, yet is keen to stress a sense of business as usual.
His pre-game speech, in that regard, is unlikely to be rivalling Braveheart.
He explains: "The manager and the coaches have their say and then we have a little huddle right before kick-off where I say a few words.
"It's just emphasising the point, some of the things people want to say before the game. It keeps us all together and we want to do that.
"It is normally off the cuff, I'll probably keep it the same. I'm sure I will think of something."
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Use of the "W word" has not been banned around the dressing room but the skipper claims the players are focused on the task in hand.
"There is not so much talk about Wembley between the lads, you get a lot more from outside," he says.
"I have been in football long enough to know there is still a long way to go. This is not a time to be thinking about suits for Wembley or things like that.
"There is no point, there is so long to go. We have to be really focused on this game and putting in a good performance.
"You have to embrace it, these moments do not come round every day.
"By the same token you know you still have a long way to go.
"It is not a foregone conclusion, Preston are a very good side and have some very good attacking players and they caused us trouble at times in the first leg.
"We know there is still a lot of football to be played and we have got to be concentrated and focused."
To that end, Chambers agrees with the school of thought that the Saddlers should look to take the game to the visitors.
"The manager is going to have his say closer to the game but I would imagine that is the best way to approach it," he said. "You don't want to sit back and invite pressure.
"It's a game we need to go and win, like we do any other. We have some good attacking players and we want them to be causing a threat going the other way.
"Obviously they will have to do their work, like they normally do, defensively but it is best for us if we go and try to win the game."